Comments for EDI Basics Blog http://www.edibasics.co.uk/blog Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:11:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 Comment on The Standards Deviation by Steve Keifer http://www.edibasics.co.uk/blog/2010/10/the-standards-deviation/comment-page-1/#comment-27 Steve Keifer Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:11:35 +0000 http://blogs.gxs.com/?p=3354#comment-27 Thanks for the comments. You raise some excellent points. Although I am critical of the standards proliferation, I think we are better off with standards than without them. I've listed all the XML & EDI standards I have found on the following site: http://delicious.com/longtailofb2b Let me know of which ones I have missed. Thanks for the comments. You raise some excellent points. Although I am critical of the standards proliferation, I think we are better off with standards than without them.

I’ve listed all the XML & EDI standards I have found on the following site:
http://delicious.com/longtailofb2b

Let me know of which ones I have missed.

]]> Comment on The Standards Deviation by Patrice http://www.edibasics.co.uk/blog/2010/10/the-standards-deviation/comment-page-1/#comment-26 Patrice Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:12:24 +0000 http://blogs.gxs.com/?p=3354#comment-26 I have indeed another theory regarding the proliferation of EDI and XML standards. By the way, there should now be much (much) more than 100 out there ;-) My conjecture is that: << It is impossible for human beings to model the same reality with the same data model”. It has now been more 30 years that people are modelling the same reality with new/different models ;-) You will always need - at least we have done that for the past 30 years - to map the data model of the source system to the data model of the destination system. Thus, all the stories about creating a standard data model/format is just a non-sense (according to my conjecture). I am an XML-guy; I mean I discovered IT with SGML and follow closely the evolution of XML. I jumped into the wonderful idea of creating XML-based standards that will revolutionise the world with automatic trading - the ones who know/remember UDDI will appreciate ;-) Of course, I have been disappointed ;-) It does not work! But, then my frustration became DRAMATIC, when I realised that all these XML-guys did the same “mistake” as the EDI-guys, no lessons learned from the past, still trying to standardise data models... which is non-sense :-/ On the other hand, when you spend your days mapping models to models that are modelling the same reality, you still feel in your guts that there should be a way to “standardise” something, the reality is the same, thus it should be possible to have the same “thingy “at the technical implementation level, NOT the data model/format, but something else... Personally, I do see a possible alternative path, but it will probably take some more time to emerge (if ever)... I think that the 1st step might be to recognise the “mistake”, but I do not see yet the EDI/XML standards community ready to recognise that “mistake”... in my humble opinion ;-)) I have indeed another theory regarding the proliferation of EDI and XML standards. By the way, there should now be much (much) more than 100 out there ;-)
My conjecture is that: << It is impossible for human beings to model the same reality with the same data model”. It has now been more 30 years that people are modelling the same reality with new/different models ;-) You will always need – at least we have done that for the past 30 years – to map the data model of the source system to the data model of the destination system.
Thus, all the stories about creating a standard data model/format is just a non-sense (according to my conjecture).

I am an XML-guy; I mean I discovered IT with SGML and follow closely the evolution of XML. I jumped into the wonderful idea of creating XML-based standards that will revolutionise the world with automatic trading – the ones who know/remember UDDI will appreciate ;-) Of course, I have been disappointed ;-) It does not work! But, then my frustration became DRAMATIC, when I realised that all these XML-guys did the same “mistake” as the EDI-guys, no lessons learned from the past, still trying to standardise data models… which is non-sense :-/

On the other hand, when you spend your days mapping models to models that are modelling the same reality, you still feel in your guts that there should be a way to “standardise” something, the reality is the same, thus it should be possible to have the same “thingy “at the technical implementation level, NOT the data model/format, but something else…

Personally, I do see a possible alternative path, but it will probably take some more time to emerge (if ever)… I think that the 1st step might be to recognise the “mistake”, but I do not see yet the EDI/XML standards community ready to recognise that “mistake”… in my humble opinion ;-) )

]]> Comment on How Does Your Company Measure Supply Chain Complexity? by Bala (BR) Deshpande http://www.edibasics.co.uk/blog/2010/09/how-does-your-company-measure-supply-chain-complexity/comment-page-1/#comment-25 Bala (BR) Deshpande Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:11:54 +0000 http://blogs.gxs.com/?p=3279#comment-25 We agree that a major issue is the lack of clear standards for measuring supply chain complexity. We have written several blogs on this issue and would love to get some feedback from you! http://www.ontonix-usa.com/blog-0/bid/36300/4-steps-to-measure-supply-chain-complexity-Part-2 We agree that a major issue is the lack of clear standards for measuring supply chain complexity.

We have written several blogs on this issue and would love to get some feedback from you!

http://www.ontonix-usa.com/blog-0/bid/36300/4-steps-to-measure-supply-chain-complexity-Part-2

]]> Comment on EDI Basics – a New Beginning by James Hawden http://www.edibasics.co.uk/blog/2010/07/edi-basics-%e2%80%93-a-new-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-18 James Hawden Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:47:40 +0000 http://blogs.gxs.com/?p=2725#comment-18 You might want to take a look at GXS Insights - http://www.gxsinsights.eu/3rd_edition/index.htm - "How to Increase ERP Success with B2B Integration". You might want to take a look at GXS Insights – http://www.gxsinsights.eu/3rd_edition/index.htm – “How to Increase ERP Success with B2B Integration”.

]]> Comment on EDI Basics – a New Beginning by Murali http://www.edibasics.co.uk/blog/2010/07/edi-basics-%e2%80%93-a-new-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-17 Murali Tue, 13 Jul 2010 06:31:52 +0000 http://blogs.gxs.com/?p=2725#comment-17 Need to know more about EDI, is there is any document available for implementing EDI in SAP ERP Need to know more about EDI, is there is any document available for implementing EDI in SAP ERP

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